Company in disaster mode

Stockholder 2 · Guest

Here you have a company, UMH, that leads all forums on HotStocked.com
With thousaands of negative comments and I read where the two sons are going to bring the company back from the brink of disaster.
Could it not be that one of these son's may be the main problem?

Truth Be Told · Guest

So all stocks are down huge percentages and you think all of UMH's problem's are caused by Sam and Mike Landy.
I quess Sam and Mike created sub prime lending. And I quess Sam and Mike empowered naked short sellers.
The truth of course is UMH has remained remarkeably strong considering the depth of this economic downturn. And I have heard Sam say that UMH is better positioned then other companies when the turn around comes.
As for the people who post negative comments on this board, who are they? They couldn't really be shareholders, unless those shareholders are trying to knock the price down and buy more. It is not likely they are home owning residents because home owning residents who want to sell their homes for more then they paid have an interest in saying good things about the company.
Current employees in good standing? Don't think so. Leaving only ex employes . Enjoy you day, reality is setting in, in both the stock market and the housing market. Keep spuing your lies.

Stockholder2 · Guest

Truth Be Told wrote:

So all stocks are down huge percentages and you think all of UMH's problem's are caused by Sam and Mike Landy.
I quess Sam and Mike created sub prime lending. And I quess Sam and Mike empowered naked short sellers.
The truth of course is UMH has remained remarkeably strong considering the depth of this economic downturn. And I have heard Sam say that UMH is better positioned then other companies when the turn around comes.
As for the people who post negative comments on this board, who are they? They couldn't really be shareholders, unless those shareholders are trying to knock the price down and buy more. It is not likely they are home owning residents because home owning residents who want to sell their homes for more then they paid have an interest in saying good things about the company.
Current employees in good standing? Don't think so. Leaving only ex employes . Enjoy you day, reality is setting in, in both the stock market and the housing market. Keep spuing your lies.

First, We are neither an employee or x-employee.
Purchased our stock in the $12.00 range.
We do not believe all problems should be blamed on the market.
Company is having a problem holding $8.00.
Nothing else to say.

Stockholder2 · Guest

Truth Be Told wrote:

So all stocks are down huge percentages and you think all of UMH's problem's are caused by Sam and Mike Landy.
I quess Sam and Mike created sub prime lending. And I quess Sam and Mike empowered naked short sellers.
The truth of course is UMH has remained remarkeably strong considering the depth of this economic downturn. And I have heard Sam say that UMH is better positioned then other companies when the turn around comes.
As for the people who post negative comments on this board, who are they? They couldn't really be shareholders, unless those shareholders are trying to knock the price down and buy more. It is not likely they are home owning residents because home owning residents who want to sell their homes for more then they paid have an interest in saying good things about the company.
Current employees in good standing? Don't think so. Leaving only ex employes . Enjoy you day, reality is setting in, in both the stock market and the housing market. Keep spuing your lies.

First, We are neither an employee or x-employee.
Purchased our stock in the $12.00 range.
We do not believe all problems should be blamed on the market.
Company is having a problem holding $8.00.
Nothing else to say.

Be Specific · Guest

so what problems do you feel are management related?

Stockholder · Guest

Be Specific wrote:

so what problems do you feel are management related?

Sure,
You have a company who is telling the stockholders to re-invest, put more money in, and that is fine, than you read where the President of the company is selling more that 1/2 million $ in stock in the $7.00 range.
Under the pretence that it was pre-planned.

How can that put faith in your investments?

Guest

Truth Be Told wrote:

So all stocks are down huge percentages and you think all of UMH's problem's are caused by Sam and Mike Landy.
I quess Sam and Mike created sub prime lending. And I quess Sam and Mike empowered naked short sellers.
The truth of course is UMH has remained remarkeably strong considering the depth of this economic downturn. And I have heard Sam say that UMH is better positioned then other companies when the turn around comes.
As for the people who post negative comments on this board, who are they? They couldn't really be shareholders, unless those shareholders are trying to knock the price down and buy more. It is not likely they are home owning residents because home owning residents who want to sell their homes for more then they paid have an interest in saying good things about the company.
Current employees in good standing? Don't think so. Leaving only ex employes . Enjoy you day, reality is setting in, in both the stock market and the housing market. Keep spuing your lies.

Mike Landy is a complete joke. The fact that you would bring him up in the same sentence as Sam is silly. Say what you want about Sam, but at least he's been in the business for over 15 years. Mike was in the "recording industry". That means he was doing nothing. It looks like that he is going to be the one that's running UMH and Sam is going to take over MNRTA if the recent insider buys and sells are any indication. If it were me, I sell my UMH and buy MNRTA if I wanted to stay in this Landy madhouse. If you want to make money, go into biotechs. Hint. Find a company that is developing a cancer vaccine.

I See You · Guest

Sam has alot of potential haters, Mike has very very few.

Guest · Guest

I See You wrote:

Sam has alot of potential haters, Mike has very very few.

Very good point, BUT, Mike has not been around as long. As for Sam, this guy is trouble. Very few pewople who did not like the father.
You can not run a company with all the hate that exists.

Let's Teach Sam · Guest

Why can't Sam figure out that people who are well liked recieve more municipal approvals, have better employee relations, and earn higher profits?

The answer is · Guest

Because it is not true.
Nice people do not recieve more approvals, do not have better employee relations, and do not earn hirer profits.
Sorry fools.

Guest · Guest

The answer is wrote:

Because it is not true.
Nice people do not recieve more approvals, do not have better employee relations, and do not earn hirer profits.
Sorry fools.

Sorry Sam, you are sure wrong.

The Mirror · Guest

And let's think about it, who can recall any time Sam was not nice or professional\?
And yet you who created a whole web site to libel and slander Sam and Mike, now say being nice pays.
Your day will come.

Iv · Guest

The Mirror wrote:

And let's think about it, who can recall any time Sam was not nice or professional\?
And yet you who created a whole web site to libel and slander Sam and Mike, now say being nice pays.
Your day will come.

I don't see where Sam is being libeled or let alone Mike.
I do see where some are fed up with the way the company is being managed and people being treated.

Psychologist · Guest

One of the things I learned about in the last few years is something called transference. Transference is when someone takes their own problems and issues and believes they are the traits of the person they are analazing. And while years agao I would never analyze you, partially because I have no interest in you at all, and partially because I never thought to analyze a wreak, I now understand how you transfer all of your own personal short comings in your analysis of Sam.
The reality is there are many many unhappy employees in this recession. No one feels they are being properly compensated in this economic downturn.
But to express your personal dislike of your employer and thier policies on a message board designed to hurt your employer and the company, that certainly is not conduct any new employer would welcome.
Your unhappy your employer doesn't appreciate your efforts and doesn't see your value. Welcome to the adult world.

Guest

Psychologist wrote:

One of the things I learned about in the last few years is something called transference. Transference is when someone takes their own problems and issues and believes they are the traits of the person they are analazing. And while years agao I would never analyze you, partially because I have no interest in you at all, and partially because I never thought to analyze a wreak, I now understand how you transfer all of your own personal short comings in your analysis of Sam.
The reality is there are many many unhappy employees in this recession. No one feels they are being properly compensated in this economic downturn.
But to express your personal dislike of your employer and thier policies on a message board designed to hurt your employer and the company, thcertainly is not conduct any new employer would welcome.
Your unhappy your employer doesn't appreciate your efforts and doesn't see your value. Welcome to the adult world.

When people who aren't trained Psychs. give their opinion of other peoples' problems, you can guarntee they're talking about themselves. On a seperate note, it's great that UMH didn't cut it's div. anymore than it did last year. I hope that's a portend of things to come. What about the much talked about commercial mortgage bubble that's about to pop? anyone want to talk about that? Is UMH prepared for that contingency? Is (one of their lagerest shareholders) MNRTA, prepared for that? They just bought a new property. I guess they're bullish on the futures. Congrats to all UMH longs on the divvies. Be smart for the future.

Guest · Guest

First I would like to comment on "Truth Be Told", you say Sam is not to blame on the economic down turn of UMH, correct, you also say the residents are "Happy" and the can sell their homes for more than they paid correct, Well, I say you are wrong on both counts, residents are not happy due to not being able to sell their homes at all due to the lot rents being raised 2 and 3 times per year, and managers steeling their buyers with the assumption of buying a new home with a warrantee. Of course you do know this is illegal, if a real estate agent did this they could lose their licence. If corporate didnt ok all the increases, who is giving the go ahead? And you think people are happy in the communities, boy are you mislead. Why dont you talk to some of the residents to see how they really feel, oh yea you would just brush it off as a disgruntled resident anyway. You are a fool to believe that.

Guest · Guest

Now let me comment on the Physco. You say the economy is hurting everyone, UHM stock is down due to lack of sales..... hence there is the problem, as far as the wage increases you mean everyone has stopped paying their rent? then I could see no increases, to my knowledge everyone is still paying thier rent increases which include "salarys" and their increases!!!!!!!!!!!! So why would good employees not get wage increases, because it would take away from the corporate increases, cant lose those horse farms or the college funds for the kiddies now. So dont BS anyone here about losing money, stocks are down from sales, not from resident retention.!!!!!!!!! Thats the dumbest thing I ever heard! Cool

The Verdict · Guest

The innocent must stick together. The guilty seeks to divide and concur. That is in no ones interest but an outsider who knows an insider who is not suspecting.
Careful who you talk to everyone. We are our only friends.

Guest · Guest

The Verdict wrote:

The innocent must stick together. The guilty seeks to divide and concur. That is in no ones interest but an outsider who knows an insider who is not suspecting.

Careful who you talk to everyone. We are our only friends.

Thank you Sam, for the above quote.
You are too worried about employees talking to others and spilling the beans.v Get over it. This is what is wrong with your management style or what ever you want to call it. Any Prez who sends letters out about present employees talking to former employees is not playing with a full deck. You are sure a hinderence to the future of this company.

Iv · Guest

The Verdict wrote:

The innocent must stick together. The guilty seeks to divide and concur. That is in no ones interest but an outsider who knows an insider who is not suspecting.
Careful who you talk to everyone. We are our only friends.

How do we get Glen Beck (Fox News) to look at this rambling.?????
This is Sam L.
Rolling Eyes

Income is down and continuing to drop. You have less than 80% occupancy in your communities.
Sam has others believing that the trailer park occupancy will come back to the 70's, 80's or even the 90's time. This will never happen.
Just like the Drive-In theater. mail box on every corner, Listen to the Statler Bros. record, "Do you remember when" It's gone, it's over,
There are other, better forms of housing which are better investments
Sure, you will find a few but it will not be many who want that type of housing.
UMH should have deversified when the market was still good and not depended on the income from the residents that they have left for an increase in income. Father had good investments that were carrying the company.
Won't work,

Be Brave · Guest

I hear everyone who get fired over there gets severence. Be brave put your real name and see if you get a check.

Guest123 · Guest

You should check your facts before spouting off.
The manufactured housing industry is alive and well and people are still buying as an affordable alternative. The problem with this company is they charge outrageous rent and continue to raise it. They have cut their staff, so the parks are not being maintained well.
Google manufactured housing communites and see how many there are!!!

Guest

[quote="Guest123"]You should check your facts before spouting off.
The manufactured housing industry is alive and well and people are still buying as an affordable alternative. The problem with this company is they charge outrageous rent and continue to raise it. They have cut their staff, so the parks are not being maintained well.
Google manufactured housing communites and see how many there are!!![/quote

Lets see, some of your comments are correct, others are wrong.

The manufacturing housing industry is not well, it is very sick.
Some manufacturers are bankrup and out of business, Fleetwood for one, others are on a two or three day work week.
Yes, the mom and pop parks are doing OK do to low lot rent, they also havea high vacancy rate. corporate owned are not doing well at all do to sky high rents. Which is needed to make the company survive.
All of which have a high vacancy.
Just because you have a lot of parks listed don't mean they are doing well.
They are all for sale, believe me.
You sure don't see any new parks being built do you?

Guest · Guest

Ya know its the same old story here, stop with the "we are`nt making money" and start with the "we will not have a rent increase this year". If you did maybe you would RETAIN the residents you are losing to lower incomes and forced to move out. Maybe the big shots in corporate should not take a salary for 1 year that would help. I know the salaries up there must be in the millions, and thats only the bodies in the corporate office!

Think about it.

007 · Guest

Guest wrote:

Ya know its the same old story here, stop with the "we are`nt making money" and start with the "we will not have a rent increase this year". If you did maybe you would RETAIN the residents you are losing to lower incomes and forced to move out. Maybe the big shots in corporate should not take a salary for 1 year that would help. I know the salaries up there must be in the millions, and thats only the bodies in the corporate office!

Company must have increase in income. It comes from rent increases.
If the can't get a 5 to 7% increase in income yearly. Why own a park?

Think about it.

MAXI · Guest

For all the negative posters , get a life. Wheather your a stock holder or employee or former employee it just dosnt matter. If you have stock in umh and you dont like the way its performing , sell. The market is a gamble no matter how you look at it , that goes for all companies. So the bottom line is sell or shut your piehole

Guest

Wow, Yoda! Thanks for the nonesense. If you have anything to do with this company, I suggest you resign. Crazy post. Just nuts.

Laugh All You Want · Guest

Your toast.

Guest

The correct spelling is "you're". As in "you are," unless you were talking about "my toast". Lunatic.

Guest

Laugh All You Want wrote:

Your toast.

Just out of curiosity, what does this mean? Are you threatening me?

New Jersey Saying · Guest

Don't be afraid of the real mafia. They will only kill you if you deserve it.

Guest

Above post is probably Sam Landy. He started doing this on the Yahoo boards when the stock was dropping the last time. This is why you shouldn't invest in this company.

Guest · Guest

By now, the 3rd quarter income results are pretty much known by upper management and they do not look good.
Look for firings and changes to take place.
There is a lot of dead weight around.

Guest · Guest

By now, the 3rd quarter income results are pretty much known by upper management and they do not look good.
Look for firings and changes to take place.
There is a lot of dead weight around.

Guest · Guest

Its not that the should`nt get an increase, but if the community is`nt performing or there has not been any capitol improvements, taxes have not gone up, then no the dont deserve one. You say the company is hurting? how about the people who moved into your communities hoping for a better lifestyle and all they get is crap from a manager who should`nt be manager of the toilets on the boardwalk. Then think about them when they are laid off due to lack of work and need to feed their kids! Then go make claim to an increase, and force them out on the street, oh yea you already do that dont you.

Oh and as for the mafia, their smarter with their money, if they had invested in UMH, They would be running it by now.

OldGreyMare · Guest

Any stock that has such a low volume, coupled with a low pps, added to a high dividend spells disaster. Please quote some "mafia" threats to me; I know your father, he wouldn't act this way. People do notice what you're doing, and you had better act like the well paid executive that you are, or the agreements that you have made won't be honored. It's time to show some dignity. Grow up.

Guest

New Jersey Saying wrote:

Don't be afraid of the real mafia. They will only kill you if you deserve it.

So you're saying that's a threat? You are threatening that the nj mafia is going to kill me because of the two post I made on this message board? Are you serious? Please respond quickly before I take this to the FBI.

Guest

New Jersey Saying wrote:

Don't be afraid of the real mafia. They will only kill you if you deserve it.

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/orgcrime/ocshome.htm
It takes a click to make it real.

Guest

Anonymous wrote:

New Jersey Saying wrote:

Don't be afraid of the real mafia. They will only kill you if you deserve it.

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/orgcrime/ocshome.htm
It takes a click to make it real.

Click, it's real.

Guest

New Jersey Saying wrote:

Don't be afraid of the real mafia. They will only kill you if you deserve it.

No response from you? You're a coward. If anyone should sign their real name to their messages, it's you. You are a delusional little man-boy who has been spoon fed his entire life. You have the guts to hide behind a computer and take credit for people's suicides, and threaten people with death via contract killings, yet you can't muster the nerve to reply to my message or the one above that I didn't write. Also, you're piss-poor grammar gives away your identity. You should think of investing in a dictionary, it would lend far more credence to your words.

Guest

STFU Sam! Concentrate on your company. STFU I work in your office. I talk to you every day.

Guest

New Jersey Saying wrote:

Don't be afraid of the real mafia. They will only kill you if you deserve it.

FBI warned (and my local police dept.) + hard copies sent to the board of directors. Hope it was worth it. Still no reply? You were so tough two days ago. I hope you don't fire anyone by accident. Where are you? Gene are you watching?

Guest · Guest

Anonymous wrote:

New Jersey Saying wrote:

Don't be afraid of the real mafia. They will only kill you if you deserve it.

FBI warned (and my local police dept.) + hard copies sent to the board of directors. Hope it was worth it. Still no reply? You were so tough two days ago. I hope you don't fire anyone by accident. Where are you? Gene are you watching?

Yes,
Paranoia has set in at the corporate office. We are now going to control all computors at the parks from the main office. This to know what they are sending and who they are communicating with.
Will probably have a CZAR appointed to watch over the whole mess.
Gene, where are you??? Please save us.

Guest · Guest

This is turning into a soap opera. Dont stop now I`m loving this. Who said what about the mafia killing someone? This is good stuff, can I have the rights to the book? Who knows your father? Oh I need answers.... Please fill me in...... Please use your real names, we will change them in the book to keep your identity safe.....Promise......Thanks

Guest

Guest wrote:

This is turning into a soap opera. Dont stop now I`m loving this. Who said what about the mafia killing someone? This is good stuff, can I have the rights to the book? Who knows your father? Oh I need answers.... Please fill me in...... Please use your real names, we will change them in the book to keep your identity safe.....Promise......Thanks

Formally good company, Father great person, Board of Directors do not have balls to recommend changes at top. Shame.
Company needs new ideas. Will not get same with present management.
Son wants to blame all problems on others.

Guest · Guest

Anonymous wrote:

Guest wrote:

This is turning into a soap opera. Dont stop now I`m loving this. Who said what about the mafia killing someone? This is good stuff, can I have the rights to the book? Who knows your father? Oh I need answers.... Please fill me in...... Please use your real names, we will change them in the book to keep your identity safe.....Promise......Thanks

Formally good company, Father great person, Board of Directors do not have balls to recommend changes at top. Shame.
Company needs new ideas. Will not get same with present management.
Son wants to blame all problems on others.

Guess what? They fired our manager out here at Somerset, Penna.
He was here for ever. Guess they wanted to get someone at a lower salary.

Guest

New Jersey Saying wrote:

Don't be afraid of the real mafia. They will only kill you if you deserve it.

Another New Jersey saying.
"When you're an REIT with millions in mortgages coming due in the next five years, don't take out a $10 million dollar line of credit during a lending crunch and spend it all in a year."
I forget who said this. It must have been Confuscious.

Guest

Guest wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Guest wrote:

This is turning into a soap opera. Dont stop now I`m loving this. Who said what about the mafia killing someone? This is good stuff, can I have the rights to the book? Who knows your father? Oh I need answers.... Please fill me in...... Please use your real names, we will change them in the book to keep your identity safe.....Promise......Thanks

Formally good company, Father great person, Board of Directors do not have balls to recommend changes at top. Shame.
Company needs new ideas. Will not get same with present management.
Son wants to blame all problems on others.

Guess what? They fired our manager out here at Somerset, Penna.
He was here for ever. Guess they wanted to get someone at a lower salary.

Poor Terry. He was such a great guy! I'm sure he'll be missed!

Guest · Guest

Anonymous wrote:

Guest wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Guest wrote:

This is turning into a soap opera. Dont stop now I`m loving this. Who said what about the mafia killing someone? This is good stuff, can I have the rights to the book? Who knows your father? Oh I need answers.... Please fill me in...... Please use your real names, we will change them in the book to keep your identity safe.....Promise......Thanks

Formally good company, Father great person, Board of Directors do not have balls to recommend changes at top. Shame.
Company needs new ideas. Will not get same with present management.
Son wants to blame all problems on others.

Guess what? They fired our manager out here at Somerset, Penna.
He was here for ever. Guess they wanted to get someone at a lower salary.

Poor Terry. He was such a great guy! I'm sure he'll be missed!

Happpy trails to you, till we meet again, Thanks Roy,